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Thursday, August 30, 2007

The Religious Right still hates Hindus

Via Ed Brayton comes the news that the same chaplain that offered a Hindu prayer in the House a few months ago offered the same prayer in the California Senate, with more or less the same telling reaction from the religious right:

Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association, told the San Francisco Chronicle that it remains a mystery to whom Zed was praying.

"I don't know if he even knows who he's praying to," he said. "We're not opposed to the ability of people to worship their own gods or god, but when it comes to our civil government ... it's always been the recognition of the God of the Bible. Every religion is not equal. That's my belief. That's logic."

I don't know about you, but I'm thrilled that they're finally admitting their bigotry. Every religion, presumably including no religion, is worse than Christianity to these nutjobs. But coming out directly and saying it makes it harder for the appeasers to make the case that if we just pussyfoot around with these people then they'll play nice. Newsflash, they won't. They won't be happy until the United States is a full-fledged theocracy, not that it's ever going to happen (which doesn't mean we should let our guard down, the theocrats are well-connected and very motivated, but as long as we're vigilant they can't win).

It's really funny to me that this reaction comes from something so innocuous, that people can get so inflamed by someone talking to an imaginary man in the sky is laughably absurd. But then again, so is everything else involving religion.

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  • Every religion is not equal.

    Hear hear! It is preposterous to hear people speak of any religion other than Ramsesism.

    Why, a cursory examination of the fundamental tenets is compelling!

    thou shalt make bouncy bouncy with the meek, and the meek here shalt be understood to be none other than the humble and gentle rodent.

    Come now, give us Ramsesists our time in government!

    By Blogger Josef, at 8:48 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • The only true religions are Christianity, and Judaism. Jews are mistaken because they don't believe that Jesus was god, but we have to be nice to them because we love Israel and are sorry for the Holocaust. Muslims can go to hell for all we care.

    This is why we only talk of Judeo-Christian values, not Abrahamic values.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:09 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • The only true religions are Pastafarianism, and pirates.

    Pirates are mistaken because they don't think that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was god. But we have to be nice to them because we love Parmesan and feel sorry for the Atkins Holocaust. Reform Pastafarians can go to hell for all we care.

    This is why we talk of Pirate-Pasta values, not Corporate Fiscal Accounting values.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:37 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • chistians molest their children unlike any other religion on earth...jews dont have a religion...they are a culture..a slimy one at that...hindus are retarded and dont really make any sense...moslems need get out of the dark ages and quit killing each other and suppressing women....
    otherwise it is best of the worst....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:40 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • There were people who lived, laughed and were intelligent thousands of year before Christianity dawned.

    And I am not just talking about Hinduism, there were other civilizations too.

    And of all people, contemporary Americans are least qualified to call Hindus retarded.

    Hinduism has more depth and a richer history than any of the contemporary religions. It's just that it's not a political religion like the other three.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:51 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • I am a proud neo-connish/libertarian. I hate liberals. But... I spent a good portion of my life in India and the Middle East and I disagree with everything you commies have to say, except this. What an ignorant nutjob. (I think I hate christians even more than liberals.)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:16 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • You people are all clueless.

    The only true religion is the Red Sox.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:29 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • Forget about specific religions for a moment. You, as an individual, choose a certain religion. Why? Because you believe in it - you chose it OVER the other religions because you thought it was best. Therefore, any other religion to you is indeed inferior and false.

    This is common sense. This is what you nutjobs don't seem to understand. Of course Christians feel that Hinduism is false. Seen any Muslims running around hugging Christians lately? Me either.

    Do you think Muslims are ready to accept Christ as God so we can "all just get along and agree all things are equal?"

    I can't believe you are that stupid.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:32 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • Don't be ridiculous...

    The religious right doesn't hate Hindus. They hate everyone who's not a religious right wing nut equally...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:39 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • By Anonymous RedditUser, at 10:52 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • >> Every religion is not equal. That's my belief. That's logic.

    > I'm thrilled that they're finally admitting their bigotry

    It's not bigotry, it's like he said, it's "logic".

    For example, if someone is an Atheist who believes evolution, it is illogical for him to be a Christian and creationism.

    Atheism and Christianity are mutually exclusive. That's logic.

    He's a Bible believing Christian, and as such (to him) Hinduism is a falsehood. He's decriminating faiths based on his beliefs. But it's not bigotry.

    Such attempts as yours to paint him as an irrational hateful person based on those commetns is hyperbole and unfair.

    By Blogger boxlight, at 10:59 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • "There's only one god,
    And that's the sun god!
    Rah! Rah! Rah!"

    So it is written. So it ever shall be.

    By Anonymous nobodycareswhatyouthink, at 11:08 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • The only really worthwhile religioin is Soto Zen Buddhism and the practice of "just sitting" (shikantaza) because when you have parked your behind on a meditation cushion (zafu), closed your mouth, and dropped off all your thoughts are you at peace and not harming anyone. No other religion in the world offers so simple a prescription for world peace. So, sit down, shut up, drop off your thoughts = World Peace. Sounds like those who practice this are worthy of a Nobel Peace prize. To learn more, see .

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:29 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • jesus chist.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:31 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • Tim is the son of Donald Wildmon, and frankly the apple didn't fall from the tree.

    These folks have made a tidy business being professionally conservative.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:44 AM, August 30, 2007  

  • You know, I've been wondering for a long time now when we as a species will get over this need to believe in mis-translated fairytales and poorly understood political allegories from millenia ago to comfort our tiny little brains.

    But until the majority of people are able to see through the crutch that is religion, and all the horrors perpetrated in its name, I have a plan. I advocate a return to traditional family values. Traditional ROMAN family values, that is. Feed the damned Christians to the lions, put them in the ring as gladiators, hell, let's play to their martyr complex and crucify them. THAT will give them something well deserved to think about while they're coming up with excuses for their last bout of altar boy molestation.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:14 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • Where's the hatred? He's saying that he believes his religion, and his religion says that Hinduism is an incorrect belief.

    That's all fairly obvious. No news here.

    He's also saying he doesn't want Hinduism in the US government. That's a little farther.

    But nowhere is he saying anything that indicates hatred. That's your invention, and it's slanderous.

    By Anonymous John Koetsier, at 12:34 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • Just because you don't agree with someone's religion does not mean that you hate them. My best friend in the world is a Taoist, while I am a Christian who works in Christian ministry.

    Sure, there are religious right people who hate, but many of them have a deep love for all humanity regardless of their religious affiliation.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:38 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • John, I mostly address your comment here, but I'd like to specifically say that I'm reading into the action here. Wildmon reacted this way because a Hindu lead a prayer, and wouldn't have if a Christian had lead it (as presumably happens all the time). I see this as bigotry (what I defended in the link).

    But my titled is more or less just hyperbole and alliteration. It's definitely not slanderous because, at the very least, it's not affecting his reputation (nor is it meant to). It's actually quite difficult for something to be slander, and this definitely isn't. Not to mention the fact that I said "religious right", which isn't any particular person, I'm pretty sure you can't slander a whole group.

    By Blogger Stupac2, at 12:44 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • gawd, this is whiny. At least he didn't incite a riot and burn some churches.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:31 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • A bigot does not have to hate someone. Definition of a bigot:

    "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:41 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • Jeezuz H Christ. The only god is the god of the bible means (without an absurd stretch of the imagination) that he expects believers in other gods to be punished for their faith.

    "play nice and pat them on their heads. We'll laugh while they writhe in hell."

    I don't care if it's not bigotism. It's still unbecoming of a sentient creature exposed to 21st human knowledge.

    By Blogger Alan, at 4:02 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • for all you Christians out there read this:

    this tells how the bible was written and it wasnt by god but a corrupt government lol

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:05 PM, August 30, 2007  

  • For example, if someone is an Atheist who believes evolution, it is illogical for him to be a Christian and creationism.

    By Anonymous online pharmacy, at 12:04 PM, December 23, 2011  

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